I never thought I'd ..............

Prop 8 was a tragedy, as was the same bill here in AZ.

Both were funded by and largely supported by the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints.

I think it might be fun to start an initiative to strip LDS members from owning property in AZ, and another to bar the church from owning property in AZ. Since we know that we as a people aren't opposed to discrimination, why not expand who we're screwing?

There are still over two million, vote by mail and provisional ballots, that have not been counted yet.  With 16% of the vote still not counted can we really say it passed or failed?

P.

I could not agree more; there should be a fire wall between government and religion, all religion, that is how the founders intended our country to be run.  That is how this great myth of inclusion spread here; every immigrant who ever landed on our shores has had to struggle to defend the culture of America and the one they were born to. 

 If we  pull our heads out of our asses and actually look at our history, warts and all, a better understanding of the true story of this country would make us better and more understanding  citizens; and deserve the admiration of the old world, something we have always taken for granted.  I have always believed that need and fear among those countries out weighed any admiration we may have accrued.

We have to clean our own house; it is a filthy mess!  As for Prop.8 and other such filth that divides us, and I cannot believe the numbers showing up on the above poll, gives me one more thing to hang on and hope I live to see, that great day when we all are 'judged by the content of our character'; rather than the myriad of things that make us unique!

I do not believe that was Obama;s decision as much as it was the medias; I do not refer to him as black, to do so insults his mother.  Since European/Kenyen is a mouth full; when I do mention his race, I will say African-American.

That's just me.

Sorry 2 cents, Sen. Obama ran as a man. He never injected either his black or white race into the campaign. Others did that. Not one sign said anything like "vote for the black guy" or a website of his say "It is time to give the brother a chance".

Sen. Obama ran as the agent of change, and to bring hope back to America for a better future. If you were listening to Obama you'd have got that.

If you were listening to Bill O'Touchy or Shawn Insannity then you'd come away with the impression that Obama ran as a "South side Chicago political machine insider terrorist bomb throwing radical black church Christian secret Islamic fundamentalist PLO lover".

It isn't Sen. Obama's fault that you didn't pay attention - he even eventually had to hold a speech to address his race and his issues with Rev. Wright, and the older generation of black Americans who lived thru segregation. Sen. Obama ran as a man, and didn't inject his race into things, and he never behaved that Harvard and the US Senate were his birthrights, but things that he worked for. Sen. Obama never tried to duck criticism by playing a race card, or dodge a question because of his middle name.

“We’ve been in a racial stalemate for four years,” Obama said to a crowd of several hundred, including a throng of media.

He spoke at length of the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a former pastor of Obama’s in Chicago, who has been accused of promoting black separatism. He chastised Wright’s words, though he would not condemn the man.”These people are part of me,” he said during the 30-minute address.

“They are part of America, the country I love.”

He suggested that forgetting what Wright had done for him would be like forgetting the grandmother who raised him, a white woman whom Obama said occasionally used racial epithets and admitted fear of black men. Obama used Wright to diagnose race in the United States today, recounting 350 years of racism, but declaring we should be in pursuit of common ground.

“We do not need to recite here the injustices that have been done in this country,” he said.The crowd was full of Philadelphia Democratic Party notables, including City Councilwoman Janine L. Blackwell, Councilman Curtis Jones Jr., IBEW Local Union 98 Business Manager Johnny Dougherty, who recently announced a campaign for the State Senate, former City Councilwoman Carol Ann Campbell, and U.S. Congressman Patrick Murphy, D-Pa. Many black clergy from the city were also in attendance.Obama told the invite-only crowd that his candidacy was based on a hope in solving old wounds.

“I chose to run for president in this time,” he said, “because we cannot solve the problems of our time unless we work together.”Still, he acknowledged that it would take time, that this racial divide wouldn’t be solved soon.”Not with one term, not with one candidate,” he said.

Voters in Pennsylvania, registered as either a Republican or Democrat, can vote on April 22 in party primaries. While Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. has surpassed the requisite delegate count to be effectively named the Republican nominee for next November’s presidential election, the battle between Obama and his rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., rages on. By some accounts, Pennsylvania’s 158-pledged delegates could decide who will be the Democratic nominee.

During the speech, Obama spoke of his own past and heritage, noting that he had relatives of every race on three different continents. He addressed white angst about blacks, Hispanics and other minority groups.”Anger over welfare and affirmative action built the Reagan coalition,” Obama said, speaking of the conservative base that developed during the Ronald Reagan presidency in the 1980s. He suggested he would like to reach out to these groups as well.

Obama didn’t invoke the name of Clinton once after stepping in front of the podium a few minutes before 11 a.m., but he did directly address Geraldine Ferraro, a Clinton adviser who stepped down after suggesting Obama’s success as a presidential candidate was based on his race. Ferraro was the first female to run as a major pary vice presidential candidate when she was the running mate of Walter Mondale, the unsuccessful Democratic presidential nominee in 1984.The event’s location wasn’t released to the public.

Obama began and closed his speech by describing Philadelphia’s role in the development of the United States, calling for the need of positive leaders and strong activists.”Words on parchment aren’t enough to deliver people from bondage.”